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« on: December 31, 2011, 11:27:51 AM »

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iPhone 4S Versus Windows Phone 7: Round One, Fight!
by Paul Acevedo on 10/5/2011 | Filed Under: Editorials; Tags: games, Windows phone 7, iphone, comparison, iphone 4s | 67 comments



Apple announced the iPhone 4S today, which millions of hipsters and fruit fanatics will be lining up to purchase on October 14. Does the new iPhone threaten to stall Windows Phone?s rise to the smartphone big leagues? In some ways, yes. Whenever the competition rolls out a new product line, that?s always cause for concern. In the following editorial I?ll spell out the different areas that Apple has me worried. Just don?t forget that I absolutely love Windows Phone and I?d sooner give up one of Rich Edmond's kidneys than live without it.

Head past the break to find out in which areas the iPhone 4S may have current Windows Phones beaten.

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The iPhone 4S?s A5 dual-core CPU/GPU combo stands out as Apple?s most significant hardware advantage over Windows Phone. We still haven?t heard of one upcoming Windows Phone that utilizes a dual-core processor. This gives the iPhone a major leg up in both multitasking and processing power, though the clock speed of its CPU is unknown so it?s hard to make real estimates just yet.

Windows Phone can?t do multitasking in the strictest sense just (without a software hack), but it has similar functionality. Fast App Switching, just introduced in the Mango update, allows users to jump back and forth between up to five different apps by pressing and holding the hardware Back button. Apps and games produced prior to the Mango update must be updated to support Fast App Switching. Said updates continue to roll out every day; we expect pretty much all the ones people would actually want to run will become fully Mango-compliant by the end of the year.

Background services are another Mango addition. They allow apps to download data and update themselves in the background. Apps can check for data every 30 minutes while not plugged in or connected to Wi-Fi and every 10 minutes when a USB cable and Wi-Fi are present. Background services could potentially be improved by the move to dual core processors. But because anything running in the background still uses power, don?t expect a dramatic increase in background functionality whenever dual core Windows Phones finally materialize.

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Now, the area where a more powerful CPU and GPU really make themselves felt is graphical performance. Windows Phone has always been behind iPhone in 3D graphics. The best looking 3D Windows Phone games like Hydro Thunder GO really can?t compete with the big-budget iPhone titles such as Infinity Blade, which debuted in 2010. Admittedly, Windows Phone is a newer platform, whereas developers have had years to wrap their heads around making iPhone games. But the beefier hardware of the iPhone 4S is going to widen the graphics gulf even more.

Speaking of Infinity Blade, Epic Games chose today to announce a sequel exclusively for iPhone. Make no mistake; it?s a killer app. We?ve seen some terrific games on Windows Phone, but nothing approaches even the first Infinity Blade as far as looking and feeling like a big-budget console title. The new game will run on all iOS devices from the iPhone 3GS and up.

Now, existing Windows Phone hardware is more than a match for the 3GS, which means an Infinity Blade 1 port wouldn?t be out of the question. We know Microsoft has a good relationship with Epic Games, whose Gears of War series is exclusive to the Xbox 360. The big MS should capitalize on their existing relationship and either get Epic to port Infinity Blade straight away or start a new killer franchise, exclusively for Windows Phone. Why not find a way to adapt Gears of War while they?re at it? The same applies to other iPhone heavy hitters like Gameloft; gamers are impatient for their high-spec games.

Xbox Live versus Game Center



Despite the dearth of killer games (and the multitude of iPhone casual game ports), Windows Phone has an ace up its sleeve with Xbox Live. The platform?s Xbox Live integration attracts console gamers like me, plus it can potentially convert average smartphone users into fans of Microsoft?s gaming platforms. Mango even revamped the Windows Phone Games hub, fully integrating Xbox Live to create a more seamless experience.

Apple has long been playing catch-up to Xbox Live with their iOS Game Center. iOS games may have Game Center Achievements, but those don?t hold the same appeal to console gamers as their Xbox Live counterparts. Today Apple announced some major Game Center improvements, most notably cloud save support. Users will be able to play a game on their iPhone and then resume it on the iPad, with the save file transferred wirelessly. That?s a big one-up over Windows Phone.

While Microsoft?s mobile platform does support some cloud services, the issue of transferring or backing up game save data has never been addressed in any form at all. Saves can?t be transferred via USB cable or cloud, a major oversight. But there is hope. One of the major features of the upcoming Fall 2011 Xbox 360 dashboard update is cloud support. Sure, that applies to console games, not mobile ones. Still, the feature will likely trickle down to Windows Phone within a year or so.

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In most other ways, the iPhone 4S?s hardware advantages don?t amount to much. The 4S sports a nice 8 megapixel camera, and so will the HTC Titan. Yes, Apple?s new phone can shoot 1080P video whereas Windows Phones can?t shoot videos above 720P resolution. But take it from someone who owns a 1080P video camera: 720P is far more practical from a memory standpoint. Unless you?re planning to produce Blu-Rays or something (which I?d still use a dedicated camera for over a phone), 1080P is more than you really need.

While we?re on the subject of resolutions, both the iPhone 4 and 4S boast 960 x 640 screen resolutions, while Windows Phone currently maxes out at 800 x 480. It?s another reason that 3D games can look more detailed ? resolution really does matter. But the 4S?s screen size, like other iPhones before it, will be a scant 3.5 inches. The Samsung Focus?s 4 inch screen is noticeably larger to even casual users, and the HTC Titan?s behemoth 4.7 inch screen will positively dwarf Apple?s offerings. Given the choice between a tiny screen with extra pixels per inch or a large one with slightly less, I?ll pick the bigger one.

Finally, Apple demonstrated some impressive iPhone 4S voice recognition via video. Actors casually asked their phones to text loved ones or what the weather is like, only to be politely answered by a nightmarish machine voice. Windows Phone has included some voice frecognition features from the get-go. Time will tell whether Apple's version works much better; we can expect Microsoft to fire back with further improvements down the line if so.

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At last we come to Microsoft?s greatest strengths: The Windows Phone OS and Metro UI. Simply put, Metro is more attractive and intuitive to use than iOS. Well-designed Windows Phone apps match the look of the platform, differentiating themselves from software for other smartphones. Metro is so revolutionary, Microsoft is even rolling it out to Xbox 360 this fall and Windows 8 next year. The day will come that people see using Windows Phone as a natural extension of what they already do on PC and other devices.

And how about staying in touch with others? That?s what phones are all about, after all. Windows Phone sports social network integration that surpasses anything iPhone has done. Yeah, we can download an official Facebook or Twitter app for either platform. But with Windows Phone, you don?t even need to do that. Just plug in your credentials and suddenly you can post pictures to your wall or send out a tweet with practically no effort at all. There are so many more great Windows Phone software features, we?d be here all day if we named them all.

Fight the good fight



Clearly, the iPhone 4S possesses several advantages over Windows Phone. It?s got more muscle under the hood, better games, and a sharper screen resolution. Apple also has incredible brand recognition, to the point that people actually do wait in line for their newest products.

Microsoft may be one of the largest companies in the world, but they?re still the scrappy little up-and-comer in the world of smartphones. Still, Windows Phone is really special. With the right management and effort, it can catch up to the iPhone someday.

One way to beat your competitors is by delivering a better product. Microsoft is largely doing just that with the Windows Phone OS, Metro UI, and to an extent, mobile Xbox Live. But the Windows Phone hardware specs should catch up and surpass iPhone specs sooner rather than later. Currently we?re about one year behind Apple in processors and screen resolutions, to say nothing of battery life. I?m sure 2012 will see Windows Phones will dual core processors, but unless they also pack a little extra punch, they?ll just end up behind the next iPhone come the following autumn. And when those powerful processors do come along, they?ll need a higher resolution screen to show off what they can do. Let?s hope Microsoft doesn?t allow the 800 x 480 limitation to live beyond next year.

Whether or not the 4S had been announced, the number one area Microsoft needs to work on is brand awareness and advertising. When new Windows Phones like the HTC Radar and Titan quietly slip out to retailers instead of receiving a media blitz, somebody isn?t putting their back into it.

While I?m mentioning retailers, better in-store displays and employee training are very much in order. People shouldn?t be able to walk into a phone store and not be tempted by Windows Phones.

http://m.wpcentral.com/iphone-4s-versus-windows-phone-7-round-one-fight
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2011, 02:49:05 PM »

WP7 or WP8 or whatever is to come will never beat Apple. That ship has sailed.  They could beat Google, probably not but maybe. Android is already the non apple solution, people like it there is a huge amount of developer support and the UI's is fine. WP7s UI is a love it/hate it type thing. Any perceived advantages of WP is strictly subjective. Tiles VS icons? If that's going to be your line in the sand that you think differentiates the OS and makes it better you're kidding yourself. Same with Facebook/Twitter integration who the f*** cares?

Thus far MS has offered zero killer solutions that make android look less attractive to Android Partners or consumers. Microsoft cannot compete against apple period it just isn't in their DNA to have the attention to detail regarding hardware/software integration.

Any way my point is, how do they undercut google? Price? No. Legal king fu? That hasn't worked at all. Hmm seems to me the only thing they can do is wait for google to slip up.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2011, 08:10:27 PM »

 
  The problem with your rhetoric is same argment was spewed when andriod was coming out.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2011, 09:13:18 PM »

I never said the same thing about Android. I actually think android is pretty decent. I've always thought that.

The problem with anyone who thinks WP7 stands any chance of over turning Apples market leading position should be obvious to anyone who frequents 'zunescene.com'

Any way your point is moot. Nobody wants to work with MS on their dud OS. Nokia was an exception because of the clever, if transparent, take over orchestrated by Elop and Balmer. MS wishes they had iPhone killer after iPhone killer released every couple weeks ala android.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 08:16:17 PM »


 Everyone Ive met that has WP7 loves it. And 50,000 apps and growing isnt anything to sneeze at, while at the same time infiltrating apples app store. Open your options.....

 As far as killing iphone that isnt in the cards but surpassing it is, creating a successful mobile business is.

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 03:35:07 PM »

Just like everyone who owned/owns a Zune loves it too. Doesn't matter. Anticdotal appreciation for anything does not translate into sales. My friends all love Indy bands whom no one has ever heard of you won't be seeing any of them outselling  Justin Beiber.

Now that's not to say WP7 is a 'cool Indy band' it's just another also ran mobile disaster trying to be hip and cool made by a company that doesn't know how to market or sell hip and cool.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 03:43:00 PM »

Btw wp7 sales were awful this holiday season.

http://www.tmcnet.com/topics/articles/249637-windows-phone-7-barely-makes-fizzle-this-holiday.htm
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 04:06:58 PM »


The real killer is that much of the tech press has started to pick up on the lackluster sales and that is quickly becoming the only narrative - "It has failed with consumers." They risk becoming another WebOS.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 04:08:19 PM »

Radiation, why do you relish when a product that you don't intend on purchasing doesn't sell as much as a brand that you will buy?
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 01:08:04 PM »

Radiation, why do you relish when a product that you don't intend on purchasing doesn't sell as much as a brand that you will buy?

I can never see myself buying a windows mobile phone, or an android. I love the eco system of iOS and have invested in that with iPad, iPhone, Apple TV and numerous macs. I do think its important to have good competition out there, 3 is a good number to push each other on and giving us the consumer options is never a bad thing.

I think Microsoft will pull through... they have the Ask Ziggy app... you know the terribly put together version of Siri for Windows phones.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 12:59:39 AM »

Radiation, why do you relish when a product that you don't intend on purchasing doesn't sell as much as a brand that you will buy?

It's not that I care if any other brand etc fails, its that I care specifically when MS fails! This may sound very odd, but I just really really hate Microsoft. I haven't always been that way. I used to like them in the late 90s early 2000 era. I had all kinds of MS stuff, pocket PCs, Desktops, laptops etc. But after years and years of putting up with viruses, computers that just suck after less than a years worth of use, and crash after crash after crash I just got fed up, furious, hateful towards anything they made. Yes I ran into the arms of Apple products, but honestly it wasn't as simple as that. I tried everything from Linux (red hat) for computers, to Palm and Handspring for mobile. They were all better than anything Microsoft made.

So any way, I just really really hate Microsoft. It gives me sick pleasure every time they fail. I love that they are failing in mobile. I love that they failed in so many ways in mobile media against Apple. I love that their bread and butter Windows craptacular OS is now being threatened on all fronts. I truly and honestly think the world would be (and looking back the world always would have been) better off without Microsoft. That is my honest belief. They suck... They have been resting on their laurels for the better part of a decade beating down any competitor with legal battles and buyouts rather than innovating. The only time they innovate is when they are threatened. Like WP7 and Windows 8, clear attempts to fix years and years of neglect now that it's pretty much too late. F them! I say grab some popcorn and watch as they slowly unravel. It's been fun so far!
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 01:56:21 AM »

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WP7 or WP8 or whatever is to come will never beat Apple. That ship has sailed.

Dominance from any company won't last forever...
They'll run out of steam one day...
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2012, 10:56:46 AM »

Why would you think that? Nobody ever broke Gillettes strangle hold over the shaving market, no one is going to break MSs dominance over desktop market (though I believe that market will implode in the next 3 years), when I go to the store I buy 'Kleenex' not tissue paper and so did my parents and grandparents...
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 02:19:01 PM »

It's not that I care if any other brand etc fails, its that I care specifically when MS fails! This may sound very odd, but I just really really hate Microsoft. I haven't always been that way. I used to like them in the late 90s early 2000 era. I had all kinds of MS stuff, pocket PCs, Desktops, laptops etc. But after years and years of putting up with viruses, computers that just suck after less than a years worth of use, and crash after crash after crash I just got fed up...

...The only time they innovate is when they are threatened. Like WP7 and Windows 8, clear attempts to fix years and years of neglect now that it's pretty much too late. F them! I say grab some popcorn and watch as they slowly unravel. It's been fun so far!
My mixed feelings towards Microsoft started back during the Windows 3.0 days. At that time OS/2 was emerging (a development project that I was intensely involved in) and a young upstart OS called GEOS by Berkeley Software was ported over to the Intel platform.  GEOS was a few generations ahead of its time. Pre-emptive multithreaded multitasking. GUI. Suite of applications that rivaled Microsoft's offerings. Ability to produce laser printer quality output with 8 pin dot matrix printers.

Rather than compete on the technical merits of its products, Microsoft hired astro-turfers to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) about Windows competitors.  These paid shills acted as objective observers singing the praises of Windows while denouncing the competition for their deficiencies (deficiencies that in most instances were outright falsehoods).

The pioneering days of personal computing were exciting. Back in a time before patent wars and cynical moneygrabs.

I feel sorry for the "digital natives" who weren't alive or don't remember those days. I've been fortunate enough to have experienced that AND what's happening now.

...to get back on topic,
WP7 is perhaps the greatest display of corporate arrogance since Microsoft released the Kin.  To have a decade of experience and pioneering in the mobile arena and then act like this is their first venture into the mobile space is pretty arrogant. Microsoft apologists fall into their assigned role by explaining how WP7 is "totally new".
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 04:21:23 PM »

...to get back on topic,
WP7 is perhaps the greatest display of corporate arrogance since Microsoft released the Kin.  To have a decade of experience and pioneering in the mobile arena and then act like this is their first venture into the mobile space is pretty arrogant. Microsoft apologists fall into their assigned role by explaining how WP7 is "totally new".

You mean those young startups from Redmond? Cheesy Honestly I read someone referring to them as that when talking about WP7... Can't remember if it was Gizmodo, Cnet or Engadget. Either way it's pretty clear to me that MS pays these blogs to shill for them in little ways like that. They may not force them into giving great reviews, but the language they use is obviously coming from the lips of Ballmer and Co.
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